Σάββατο 4 Ιουλίου 2009

Babylon 5 Vs STAR TREK




So like for some time i got myself in the star trek universe seeing few episodes here and there mostly next generation original series and some DS9 but never understood the hype and hysteria. After seeing the whole B5 saga the injustice is overwhelming
Here are some reasons i found on the web especially for voyager but u can use them freely on any Star trek franchise

  • Ivanova is God. vs. Janeway is lost.
  • A Bab5 episode isn’t neatly ended in the last 5 minutes
  • Kes is only a P1
  • Tell me we won’t have poverty in the future !
  • Reversable transporter accidents vs. Actual bodily harm (Just ask G’Kar)
  • PPGs don’t have a ‘STUN’ setting.
  • You don’t get paid in Star Trek.
  • Relationships on B5 last more than one convenient episode.
  • The characters and Voyager change so little, they might as well be in stasis.
  • Ivanova is always right. vs. Janeway is usually wrong.
  • Babylon 5 has romance. vs. Voyager is Puritans Lost in Space.
  • People stay dead on B5.
  • B5 has computer generated graphics vs. Voyager has a computer generated Plot
  • You will never see the head of a voyager character on a pike….Wave.
  • B5 characters evolve over time. vs. ST characters devolve, then recover, in a single episode.
  • Three letters: J-M-S.
  • Babylon 5’s name comes from an important historical reference. vs. Voyager is named after a mini-van.
  • Garibaldi… and Duck Dodgers and the 24th and 1/2 Century!
  • ST nicknames: “Bones” vs. B5 nicknames: “Star Killer.”
  • B5 has Bester vs. ST has Chekov.
  • One word: Revolution.
  • Holodeck vs. Down-below.
  • The characters on B5 are anatomicaly superior (just ask Londo)
  • the good guys and girls wear black.
  • Janeway will have a shoulder for Garibaldi to cry on vs. Ivanova will have him shot on sight.
  • On B5 Marcus is a virgin and it’s a big deal. vs. On -any- ST show, they never admit to having sex.
  • I couldn’t sleep the night “Zha’ha’dum” aired. vs. I sleep DURING ST:V
  • Straczynski freed Narn, and it was a WARM UP episode!
  • ST: Dragging it’s butt on putting in GLBT characters. vs. B5: Ivanova and Talia.
  • In B5 the dock workers actually go on strike.
  • Star furies do excellent 3D manouvers with realistic inertia. vs. Voager kinda sits there and fires.
  • Babylonian Productions actually likes the idea of fans vs. Paramount likes only the idea of more money. (see the Online Freedom Federation on Paramounts attempts to shut down Star Trek Websites run by fans)
  • B5:influenced by Tolkein vs. V’ger:influenced by money.
  • On B5 the Maquis wouldn’t be ‘re-educated’ but told you’re the type we want - go kick Shadow butt’
  • On Babylon 5 you have Heros. vs. In ST:Voy you have Zeros.
  • If Clark were running the Federation, Janeway probably wouldn’t break away to oppose him.
  • B5 characters are spurred to action by their principles vs. V’ger characters just hide behind them.
  • Ships that have (gasp) momentum!
  • B5 has a direction, Voyager dosn’t (Probably because they don’t know space has 3 dimentions.
  • ISN broadcasted Voyager episodes on Earth during Clark’s regime.
  • The Battle of the Line vs. Wolf 359.
  • Sheridan: Sees a less-developed planet under attack, starts a war with a vastly superior race. vs. Janeway: Sees a less-developed planet under attack, and uses the Prime Directive to cover her ass.
  • On voyager, everybody listens to Neelix. vs. On B5, nobody ever listens to Zathras !
  • Plot complexity : On b5: you miss one line and you are confused for the rest of the season. vs. On voyager: you catch last 5 minutes of the episode and you already understand the entire episode.
  • ST: Last minute solution saves the race. vs. B5: last minute solution too late, race dies.
  • Number of times B5 has been taken by hostile forces: 0 vs.
  • Number of times V’ger has been taken by hostile forces: 3 (4 if you count holographic Nazis)!
  • The Babylon 5 universe hasn't been sold to Microsoft.






So here id like to add my contribution to the problem
Here is a good example
Classik star trek episode, planet in trouble, bad king treats badly citizens, enterprize comes to the rescue, sends spok,doctor etc, they do stuff, king catch them, court, prison gg
Oki here comes the question to captain kirk do u want me to free the citizens or free ur friends ?
Some pretty solid decision if u ask me both answers carry their weight
Naturally in a mainstream politically correct series like star trek kirk desides to free the people
Now i dont mind the stereotype here but what i DO mind is his choise has no matter becauze at the end his friends manage to escape pretty easily anyway!!!
So he doesnt have to live with the burden of his choice
In the end ur left with no issues to discuss no story no interesting turns on the chars
Kirk will not change over the time will not become a better man by surviving hard decisions

in B5 on the other hand people WILL have to make hard choices
Sheridan will have to think whether he wants to save the universe or have his dream ideal life
Now obviusly like any usual stereotype skifi show he will naturally deside to save the universe
The difference from ST is that he will have to sacrifice his wife for it and of course pay the price later loosing his life as well


all in all there is no depth in ST no real story
Here is why
At some point Enterprize gets destoyed (zomg)
Kirk stops being a captain and becomes admiral therefore no more treks (sad face)
Spok dies (wtf no)
Kirk finds out he has a son (sweet)

oh wait a sec
at the end of the series a new enterprize gets build (relax guys falce alarm)
kirks fucks admiralship and gets demoted to captain (again ?? wtf)
Spok gets ressurected or some similar shit (aliluia)
Kirk's son dies (sweeeeet)

u see my point?

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